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There's no question that
London is the dirty money

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capital of the world.

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The UK didn't just turn a
blind eye to Russian money.

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We welcomed it.

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For many decades now London has
been rolling out the red carpet

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to corrupt and
criminal individuals

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from around the world.

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Britain is a very
open financial hub.

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It's really important that you
have really clear well enforced

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rules.

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And that's something
Britain simply doesn't have.

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There are key aspects of our
legal and financial system that

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makes the city of London a
great place to bring dirty money

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and launder wealth.

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The Russians have accounted
for about a billion pounds

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worth of residential
property in London.

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We have now woken up.

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Dirty money is being
seen for what it is,

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which is a poison to democracy.

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It's taken the real
slipping of Putin's mask,

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an act of aggression
so appalling.

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The UK appears to
have completely lost

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its moral compass.

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This is really a tale of
two empires, British Empire

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and the Soviet Empire.

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And the British Empire
as it unravelled

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retained lots of outposts,
British Virgin Islands, Channel

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Islands.

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They needed a new purpose.

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And the purpose they
found was as providers

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of financial secrecy,
and shell companies,

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corporate camouflage, ways
for people to move through

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the globalising
economy without leaving

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their fingerprints on anything.

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The engine of the multi-trillion
dollar offshore industry

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rife with dirty money.

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This is how corruption
went global.

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While the British
Empire was doing that,

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the Soviet Empire
was collapsing too.

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The greatest act of corruption
the world has probably

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ever seen, the scramble
in a few years in the '90s

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to grab the wealth of
the entire Soviet Empire,

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create this oligarchy
that went then surging out

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into the world.

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And where this all meets
is London, the place where

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dirty money comes to party.

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The origins came with the big
bang under Margaret Thatcher

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when she started liberalising
the financial services sector.

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You book me a client, I
will sell you half a million

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at six, seven, three.

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And then that carried on under
the labour government with

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a commission on deregulation.

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David Cameron I think got it.

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Thank you very much.

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After he left
office, people simply

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refused to take on the
challenge to eradicate

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dirty money from London.

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Over the past two
decades, the UK

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has really welcomed
in Russian money

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of all kinds, law firms, real
estate agents, the government.

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There are statements
on the record

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from Boris Johnson,
our prime minister,

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from when he was the
mayor of London, saying

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that he wanted to make London
a hub for Russian money.

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The Stock Exchange welcomed
lots of Russian companies,

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wanted them to make the UK and
London their European base.

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One of the reasons why
Britain has got into this hole

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is that Britain's
ruling elites believe

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that you should get out of the
way of businesses at all costs.

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So if you're a senior
civil servant what

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you need to demonstrate
to ministers

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is that you won't cause
trouble for business.

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We see it all the time
in things like failures

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of financial regulation
before the financial crisis,

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the failures of
building regulation

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that have been exposed
by the Grenfell Tower

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fire, the golden visa schemes
which are introduced in 2008.

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The golden visas were introduced
by the Labour government

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to attract wealth and
capital into London.

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If you had enough money,
you could buy citizenship.

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In theory, there
were checks on this.

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But in practise,
they didn't work.

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But of course it was abused by
oligarchs and kleptocrats who

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wanted to bring their
dirty money into London

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and use the scheme to
establish legitimacy

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and credibility in what was
seen as a trusted jurisdiction.

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It's quite a remarkable
idea that citizenship

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is for sale at all.

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It is a scandal that I've
been pursuing for many years.

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And I'm delighted the
government has finally

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abolished the scheme.

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Peaked in about 2012 when I
think around 1,200 golden visas

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were issued that year.

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Sixty per cent were actually
for either Russians or Chinese.

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If you've seized power
in Kazakhstan, Moscow,

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or Venezuela,
wherever it may be,

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you are enriching yourself
off of the fat of the land.

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You stick it in London.

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And what comes
with it in London.

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But this full suite of services
for putting a legitimate face

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on yourself.

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Let's say you wanted to bring
dirty money into the City

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of London and integrate
it into the system,

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there are basically four key
stages, placement, layering,

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integration, and defence.

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So let's start with
bringing your money from

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say a Latvian bank account,
a Cayman bank account,

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you want to then move that
into a UK shell company.

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It's possible to spend
gigantic amounts of money

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in the UK economy with a mascot.

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You're supposed to tell the
Companies House registry who

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the real owners, the beneficial
owners, of the companies are.

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But in practise, it's really
easy to evade those rules.

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And fundamentally, no one goes
after companies that just lie.

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It's essentially a Wild
West of information,

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which is unverified, and
in some cases ludicrous.

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You can put forward any
name, hide your identity.

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There are Adolf Hitler's,
and Donald Ducks,

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and Mickey Mouses.

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It is so easy to register a
company on Companies House,

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costs £12, you can
do it in minutes.

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And crucially, no one
checks the information.

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Usually, the applications
are approved within 24 hours.

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They don't actually
have the statutory power

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to check the information, to
investigate false information,

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or remove it from the register.

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Now there are some
addresses within the UK

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that have thousands of
companies registered to them.

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And if you go and knock on
the door you won't find staff.

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They have literally
been set up as a shell

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to hide the true ownership
of who really controls

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and benefits from the money
flowing through that company.

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This is a crucial area
that the government

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says it wants to tighten up.

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But this is one of
those reforms that's

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been talked about for years
and nothing has been done.

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The next stage you want to
layer to move this money around

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in a series of complicated
financial transactions that

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will distance you from the money
and from your source of wealth.

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That's where the
UK banks come in.

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Some 86 banks have been
involved in obtaining, moving

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corrupt wealth around the world.

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The cash by the time
it has got to London

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has probably already
gone through a couple

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of British overseas territories
like the British Virgin

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Islands.

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Step three is you
want to integrate

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your wealth into the UK system.

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You want to buy assets,
including UK property.

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Lawyers, real estate agents are
on hand to help you do that.

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Once you've got the
cash into London

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you can then basically
use it like it's clean.

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People aren't bringing
this money onshore

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to put it into drug gangs.

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They're putting it on the shore
to buy houses in Kensington.

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The buying really started
with Mr Abramovich.

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I was showing him
various properties,

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which he eventually bought
one in Kensington in excess

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of £90mn.

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Their fortunes were enormous.

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They were a target for
estate agents in London.

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Have you got a Russian
type conversation

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was going around the agents.

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Typical Russian buyer would be
looking for a substantial home,

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larger than most.

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Grade one, grade two listed.

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Location would be Belgravia,
Mayfair, Knightsbridge.

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There wasn't that much stock.

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But when anything
did come available,

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your thoughts were immediately
find one of these oligarchs who

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wanted to buy one.

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You can own UK property
through a shell company, even

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an offshore shell company.

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And if you do own it through
an offshore shell company,

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you don't have to say who
really owns that property.

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And lawyers are
on hand to advise

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on these complicated
transactions, which

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creates an opaque
ownership structure of some

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of our most valuable UK homes.

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Roughly 84,000 homes here in
the UK are owned anonymously.

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We have identified £6.7bn of UK
property that has been bought

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with suspicious wealth.

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£1.5bn of that, that's
around 150 land titles,

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have been purchased by Russian
individuals who are either

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accused of corruption or have
close links to the Kremlin.

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We found £830mn worth of UK
property owned by Russian

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individuals through shell
companies based in our crown

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dependencies and
overseas territories.

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And there's been about
10 to 20 important houses

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sold to oligarchs.

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They normally had a third party.

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It could have been
a lawyer, it could

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have been an intermediary.

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You didn't really have much
dialogue with the principal.

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And a fleet of cars would arrive
in all blacked out windows.

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We subsequently realised there
were some very unpleasant

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situations occurring with people
being murdered and falling out

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of windows.

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And the recent events in
Ukraine have demonstrated

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that our once earlier thoughts,
suspicions are as bad as they

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could ever possibly be.

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If those buyers that invested
money here was to launder it,

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then you wish you hadn't
had anything to do with it.

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Finally, you want to defend
your wealth and your reputation.

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And the City of London
is the perfect place

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to come if you want to do that.

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Our libel laws, which are
very claimant friendly,

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make the high court
a perfect place

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to bring your
blockbuster libel claims.

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And the City of London is
home to some of the top law

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firms in the world who
can help you bring them.

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When questions are
asked about oligarchs

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by investigative
journalists, including

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those at the Financial
Times, the lawyers

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try to shut them up.

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I've had a bit of experience of
doing battle in the High Court

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with powerful figures from
the former Soviet Union.

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There's an entire industry based
in London, the big heavy duty

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reputation management law firms.

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They harangue the
press and broadcasters.

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Newspapers are vastly outgunned.

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There's often vexatious
cases that are brought solely

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to just run up bills, to delay
things, to cause problems,

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to make editors think, oh God.

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Do we need to do this?

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So even when we try to
expose the wrongdoing,

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the kleptocrats
use their resources

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to close down the conversation.

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And the lawyers
make a lot of money

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but support the oligarchs.

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We were involved with one case.

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We were owed money and
we wanted to settle it.

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But they said, no.

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We're not going to pay you.

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So we had to go to a court.

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A very large individual
came to our door one day

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and made it clear to us
we should drop the case.

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The man had quite a
number of gold teeth

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and he was built like a gorilla.

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It was threatening.

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One of the attractions
of being in London

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is the network of lawyers,
accountants, oligarchs,

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kleptocrats, do deals.

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English law provides
a stamp of legitimacy.

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We've identified 81 law firms,
86 UK banks, and surprisingly

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177 UK education
institutions that

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have accepted or moved dirty
money from around the world.

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Russians own our
newspapers, their children

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are in the elite public schools.

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Their properties are in Mayfair.

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We have sold one
or two properties

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where people are now
on the sanction list.

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It does make you think, am
I doing the right thing?

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Look at the House of Lords
and the number of fortunes

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made in the Soviet Union
either by nationals

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from the former Soviet
Union or peers who rent out

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their legitimacy to highly
questionable oligarchs

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to sit on the boards
of their companies.

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Look at the political
donors who buy access

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to our most senior
elected officials

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from the prime minister down.

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I'm often asked to address
political representatives

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from the Commonwealth on how to
ensure proper accountability.

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I now do it with shame.

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And I feel phony not
just because of the way

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we've allowed dirty money
to come into the country,

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but because of the way
that dirty money has

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infected the public domain and
then infected our politics.

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Go back to the way we responded
to the Covid pandemic.

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We talked about a
chumocracy, matey contracts.

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Look at, say, Lord Lebedev.

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Does it matter that he's the
son of a former KGB officer?

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Does it matter that his fortune
was earned in a place run

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on kleptocratic rules?

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Does it matter that
Tory donors have roots

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in the Russian kleptocracy?

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People will of course
insist that they are just

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legitimate business people.

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But the source of their wealth
is an ultra-corrupt system.

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They are connected
at every level.

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We have City grandees,
lords, former ministers

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sitting on their boards.

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The integration of
Russian business

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with London's political and
business elite is complete.

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You can buy a bit
of a university

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and name a wing of an
art gallery after you.

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And suddenly, you're either
an entrepreneur or a statesman

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as opposed to being
a thief or a despot.

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Britain as a very
open financial hub

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would always be vulnerable
to dirty money coming

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into the country.

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And it's really important
in that situation

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that you have really
clear, well enforced rules.

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And that's something
Britain simply doesn't have.

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There have been huge questions
asked for years about the UK's

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record on enforcement.

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Often, UK law
enforcement agencies

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are simply outgunned
by the big lawyers

00:14:11.020 --> 00:14:13.538 align:middle line:84%
that worked for corrupt
and criminal individuals.

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The Serious Fraud
Office for example,

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has a budget of £50mn a year.

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Any self-respecting
oligarch makes that amount

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of money in less than a week.

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I really hope that
the UK government will

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make sure the National Crime
Agency, the Serious Fraud

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Office, and others have
teeth that can bite.

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We had to have a war to
bring this all to a head.

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And it's a shame that
so many people have

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died as a consequence of it.

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The crisis in Ukraine has
marked a real turning point.

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We are waking up now because
a kleptocrat has sent troops

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into a neighbouring democracy to
the fact that this dirty money

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is a weapon.

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The kleptocrats are
at war with democracy.

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There are a series of
legislative changes

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that have been talked about
for a really long time.

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And the government
has delayed and failed

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to implement those things
over a really long period.

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And that's how we've
got to where we are now.

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David Cameron
promised me in 2015,

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2016 that he would
bring in a bill,

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enable us to have
a public register

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of the beneficial
ownership of properties

00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:23.390 align:middle line:84%
that had been acquired
through foreign entities.

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The Economic Crime Bill that the
government has recently passed

00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:30.140 align:middle line:84%
is landmark legislation
that brings forward

00:15:30.140 --> 00:15:33.320 align:middle line:84%
the long promised and
delayed property register.

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Overseas companies that
purchase a UK property

00:15:36.830 --> 00:15:40.520 align:middle line:84%
have to tell the Land Registry
who really owns and controls

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those companies.

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One hopes that that
is the beginning

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of the end of people hiding
behind offshore vehicles.

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Everybody will have
to account for being

00:15:50.900 --> 00:15:53.150 align:middle line:84%
the beneficial
owner of anything,

00:15:53.150 --> 00:15:56.690 align:middle line:84%
whether it's an aeroplane,
a yacht, or a home.

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The Economic Crime Bill makes
sanctions easier to impose,

00:16:01.280 --> 00:16:05.450 align:middle line:84%
unexplained wealth
orders easier to pursue.

00:16:05.450 --> 00:16:08.000 align:middle line:84%
Unexplained wealth orders
were a new investigative tool

00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.660 align:middle line:84%
given to law enforcement
agencies in 2018.

00:16:11.660 --> 00:16:15.260 align:middle line:84%
It's a type of court order that
compels someone with assets

00:16:15.260 --> 00:16:19.400 align:middle line:84%
of over £50,000 to explain how
they could afford them if it

00:16:19.400 --> 00:16:21.230 align:middle line:90%
doesn't seem to make sense.

00:16:21.230 --> 00:16:24.650 align:middle line:84%
There have only been
four cases where

00:16:24.650 --> 00:16:26.360 align:middle line:90%
they've been successfully used.

00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.750 align:middle line:90%
And the amount seized is tiny.

00:16:29.750 --> 00:16:33.410 align:middle line:84%
Part of the problem
is the costs of being

00:16:33.410 --> 00:16:34.808 align:middle line:90%
unsuccessful in bringing them.

00:16:34.808 --> 00:16:36.350 align:middle line:84%
The new Economic
Crime Bill basically

00:16:36.350 --> 00:16:38.750 align:middle line:84%
caps the amount of
liability that police forces

00:16:38.750 --> 00:16:40.730 align:middle line:84%
can have if they're
ordered to pay costs.

00:16:40.730 --> 00:16:43.550 align:middle line:84%
We are going to get
an Economic Crime Bill

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2.0 in a few months' time.

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I really hope that the next
Economic Crime Bill really

00:16:49.880 --> 00:16:53.405 align:middle line:84%
gets a handle on some of the
loopholes that still remain.

00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:58.430 align:middle line:84%
Kleptocracy spreads
like a virus.

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And it starts to change
how people treat power.

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With all this dirty money
that's arrived in the UK,

00:17:04.339 --> 00:17:06.829 align:middle line:84%
with all these fortunes
made in kleptocracies,

00:17:06.829 --> 00:17:09.589 align:middle line:84%
you've got to start to wonder,
is our political system

00:17:09.589 --> 00:17:11.975 align:middle line:84%
becoming more
corrupt as a result?

00:17:11.975 --> 00:17:14.690 align:middle line:84%
To bring an end to
Londongrad, London

00:17:14.690 --> 00:17:16.369 align:middle line:90%
could become much less open.

00:17:16.369 --> 00:17:18.530 align:middle line:84%
We can take serious
steps to limit

00:17:18.530 --> 00:17:22.849 align:middle line:84%
the capacity of some types
of people to come here.

00:17:22.849 --> 00:17:24.680 align:middle line:84%
The political
consensus is around

00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:26.180 align:middle line:84%
if you like the
second option, which

00:17:26.180 --> 00:17:29.630 align:middle line:84%
is keeping London that is this
very open rules-based place,

00:17:29.630 --> 00:17:33.800 align:middle line:84%
but by trying to introduce
new rules into the system

00:17:33.800 --> 00:17:37.460 align:middle line:84%
to make it harder for people
who are really bad actors

00:17:37.460 --> 00:17:38.870 align:middle line:90%
to disguise their money.

00:17:38.870 --> 00:17:40.940 align:middle line:84%
The government's
approach to sanction

00:17:40.940 --> 00:17:43.715 align:middle line:84%
has been far too
little far too late.

00:17:43.715 --> 00:17:46.910 align:middle line:84%
It's a knee-jerk response
to a horrendous act

00:17:46.910 --> 00:17:49.520 align:middle line:84%
of kleptocratic
aggression by one

00:17:49.520 --> 00:17:51.920 align:middle line:90%
of history's great kleptocrats.

00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:54.390 align:middle line:84%
We have shown an amazing
tolerance up to this point

00:17:54.390 --> 00:18:00.080 align:middle line:84%
to people we consider to be
so plugged into Putin's regime

00:18:00.080 --> 00:18:02.120 align:middle line:84%
that if we confiscate
some of their wealth,

00:18:02.120 --> 00:18:04.100 align:middle line:84%
that will make this
man change course.

00:18:04.100 --> 00:18:08.600 align:middle line:84%
I first raised the issue of
Abramovich over a year ago

00:18:08.600 --> 00:18:11.870 align:middle line:84%
when the leader of the
opposition in Russian, Navalny,

00:18:11.870 --> 00:18:14.690 align:middle line:84%
was imprisoned by
Vladimir Putin.

00:18:14.690 --> 00:18:17.690 align:middle line:84%
Navalny said there
that if the West really

00:18:17.690 --> 00:18:20.150 align:middle line:84%
wanted to support
democracy, we ought

00:18:20.150 --> 00:18:25.280 align:middle line:84%
to take action by sanctioning
Putin's cronies around him.

00:18:25.280 --> 00:18:27.187 align:middle line:84%
At the time, the
government took no action.

00:18:27.187 --> 00:18:29.770 align:middle line:84%
It's important to remember that
this is a much bigger problem.

00:18:29.770 --> 00:18:32.390 align:middle line:84%
It may be called Londongrad,
but actually this

00:18:32.390 --> 00:18:34.160 align:middle line:90%
is not just about Russia.

00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.560 align:middle line:84%
Our response seems
to be we want to try

00:18:36.560 --> 00:18:38.480 align:middle line:90%
to pressure one kleptocrat.

00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:42.680 align:middle line:84%
We need to dismantle our
complicity in kleptocracy

00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:44.030 align:middle line:90%
wherever it comes from.

00:18:44.030 --> 00:18:48.680 align:middle line:84%
Clamp down massively on secrecy
in the economy and provision

00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:51.470 align:middle line:84%
of secrecy by large parts of
the former British Empire.

00:18:51.470 --> 00:18:54.080 align:middle line:84%
The UK is in a uniquely
strong position

00:18:54.080 --> 00:18:58.190 align:middle line:84%
to crack down on kleptocrats
because of our position

00:18:58.190 --> 00:19:01.197 align:middle line:84%
as the so-called capital
of money laundering.

00:19:01.197 --> 00:19:05.060 align:middle line:84%
Fawning service to this dirty
money over all these years

00:19:05.060 --> 00:19:07.130 align:middle line:84%
has now ironically
put us in the position

00:19:07.130 --> 00:19:08.570 align:middle line:90%
to land the biggest blow.

00:19:08.570 --> 00:19:11.090 align:middle line:84%
There are going
to be clear costs

00:19:11.090 --> 00:19:13.340 align:middle line:84%
to the measures that
the UK has taken,

00:19:13.340 --> 00:19:15.720 align:middle line:84%
exodus of businesses
from Russia.

00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:20.390 align:middle line:84%
We have also seen from the
professional services and law

00:19:20.390 --> 00:19:23.570 align:middle line:84%
firms that are based
in the UK announcements

00:19:23.570 --> 00:19:26.360 align:middle line:84%
that they are going to
refuse to do any more

00:19:26.360 --> 00:19:28.820 align:middle line:90%
work for Russian clients.

00:19:28.820 --> 00:19:31.645 align:middle line:84%
There will be a
financial cost to that.

00:19:31.645 --> 00:19:35.050 align:middle line:84%
Dirty money has benefited
certain sectors in the UK.

00:19:35.050 --> 00:19:38.710 align:middle line:84%
There are professionals who
have benefited in monetary terms

00:19:38.710 --> 00:19:40.855 align:middle line:84%
from the dirty money
flowing to the UK

00:19:40.855 --> 00:19:41.980 align:middle line:90%
from the services we offer.

00:19:41.980 --> 00:19:43.900 align:middle line:84%
But there are many
people in the UK

00:19:43.900 --> 00:19:46.960 align:middle line:84%
who have not have been
economically enriched.

00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.570 align:middle line:90%
What sort of society do we want?

00:19:55.745 --> 00:20:01.670 align:middle line:84%
I will believe it's the end
of Londongrad when I see it.

00:20:01.670 --> 00:20:05.840 align:middle line:84%
There is a huge
gulf between talking

00:20:05.840 --> 00:20:09.170 align:middle line:84%
tough on things like
sanctions, dirty money,

00:20:09.170 --> 00:20:14.300 align:middle line:84%
and economic crime, and
doing something about it.

00:20:14.300 --> 00:20:18.760 align:middle line:84%
The UK is guilty of laundering
the world's dirty money.

00:20:18.760 --> 00:20:21.735 align:middle line:84%
We help facilitate
global corruption.

00:20:21.735 --> 00:20:23.310 align:middle line:84%
We in the West
decided that we would

00:20:23.310 --> 00:20:27.720 align:middle line:84%
march into Russia, bankers,
consultants, entrepreneurs,

00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:33.180 align:middle line:84%
lawyers, and remake this
collapsing communist empire

00:20:33.180 --> 00:20:34.710 align:middle line:90%
in our own image.

00:20:34.710 --> 00:20:37.590 align:middle line:84%
But we weren't remaking
the former Soviet Union

00:20:37.590 --> 00:20:39.390 align:middle line:90%
in our image.

00:20:39.390 --> 00:20:44.160 align:middle line:84%
The new kleptocratic order was
remaking us in their image.

00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:46.980 align:middle line:84%
This dirty money is poisoning
our democratic institutions,

00:20:46.980 --> 00:20:49.020 align:middle line:84%
suborning politicians
to serve the interests

00:20:49.020 --> 00:20:51.870 align:middle line:84%
of this international
tiny oligarchy.

00:20:51.870 --> 00:20:53.550 align:middle line:90%
It's undermining the free press.

00:20:53.550 --> 00:20:57.570 align:middle line:84%
These are the only
things that separate us

00:20:57.570 --> 00:21:00.150 align:middle line:84%
from these
authoritarian regimes.

00:21:00.150 --> 00:21:04.040 align:middle line:84%
These institutions and this
dirty money is corroding them.